007: Prioritizing Children’s Nutrition with Stephanie Meades

10th December, 2018 Posted under Impressive

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Welcome to the seventh episode of the Impressive. Today’s podcast is about the person behind the Life Wellness Co, Stephanie Meades. She is a nutritionist and a holistic health coach. Here, she reveals how she balances motherhood and career topped with her passion to help us transition from eating processed foods to indulging in real ones.

Listen up as we explore:

  • The most toxic preservatives for toddlers.
  • How to recognize common reactions to processed food.
  • Where parents can find support to change family eating habits.

Listeners also receive a discount for Steph’s “Real Food Reboot” online program. Use the discount code: ‘quirkykid’ at Life Wellness Co

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In an approachable on-air consultation style, she listens to some of the smartest, kindest parents share their latest parenting challenge with their incredible kids. Together they brainstorm solutions and Kimberley offer handy tips and valuable resources to help bring out the best in toddlers, teens and in-betweens. Drawing mostly on two decades of experience as a child psychologist, Kimberley also shares her personal insights as a mother of two and entrepreneur with a passion for problem-solving.


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Doctor Kimberley: Hello, I’m Doctor Kimberley O’Brien — a child psychologist, entrepreneur, and mom with a passion for problem-solving in family adventures. Join me each week for practical tips and on-air consultations with the smartest, kindest parents and their incredible kids. Find answers faster, do things differently, and take your family further. This is Impressive.

[00:00:30 – 00:00:33]: This episode is sponsored by BriteChild.com. Now, let’s get started.

[00:00:34 – 00:01:53] Doctor Kimberley gives her introductory remarks for episode seven of the Impressive. She informs the listeners that the program is having Stephanie Meades—a nutritionist and a holistic health coach—for a short interview about her life as a mother and her career that is geared to help families transition to real foods. On the side, Doctor O’Brien promotes the Brite Child website.

Doctor Kimberley: This is episode seven of the Impressive, and I’m your host, Doctor Kimberley O’Brien. Thank you for joining us. So, this week, we’re talking to Step Meades, who is a nutritionist and a holistic health coach. She helps families to transition from processed foods even if it’s just a few processed foods onto a complete, real food diet. And she talks to us about the impact of preservatives on particularly toddlers and their behavior.

But before we get started with Steph and you start to consider Christmas parties and the lollipops the kids are coming home with these days when they have a sweet, sticky taped to the front of their Christmas card envelope from a friend. I wanted to also ask you to check out the BriteChild.com website, where you can have access to a child development expert anywhere, anytime. So, all who are listening, you go to Brite Child, B-R-I-T-E-Child-dot-com, and then take a look at Quirky Kid’s new initiative for parents, making child psychology services more affordable and more accessible for parents worldwide. If you’d also like to subscribe to the Impressive podcast, you can do that on your podcast app and perhaps even leave us a review; I would love that.

So, let’s listen up now to Steph Meades as we learn about the impact of food on children’s behavior. Thanks, Steph.

[00:01:54 – 00:04:23] Stephanie starts her story of motherhood by sharing her struggles in the get-go of their first born son, James. It was not similar to other first-time parents who have their time remain supple with their child. She and her husband had an uncommon story because James was a different child. James then was in constant pain, leaving the parents finding solutions to cease his crying.

Steph: We’ve been on quite a journey, my family and I. I don’t even really know where to start. It’s such a long story, but I’m trying to keep it short. Basically, my first born son, James, who is now seven, right from the get go, he was a very difficult child. But being our first child, my husband and I didn’t understand that the way that James was presenting was anything outside of the norm. We just thought that nobody had really told us how difficult parenting was, and that we were not kind of getting any sleep, and that we were going to have a screaming child. Turns out now that we’ve had our second child, we’re now very different. We know that that is not normal, but at that time we didn’t understand that. So, James, right from the start, when he was born…So, James was born after I went through eight months of fertility treatment, and that fertility treatment saw me very heavily medicated. So, we did the first three months of me being pregnant with James. I was actually withdrawing from a lot of that medications, which was then obviously affecting his development in the womb.

And then, when he was born, I still remember the very first day in the hospital that the nurses kept taking him off me because he was so unsettled. He just wouldn’t stop crying and he wouldn’t feed properly. And they told me that he had reflux, and so they put his little crib bumper, all of which I didn’t really understand at that time.

Then, moving on, we’ve had this bundle that we thought was supposed to be a bundle of joy that was just, you know, absolute misery all of the time. So, he would cry constantly. He would be drawing his legs up. He would sleep for 15 minutes, talks 24/7. So, we were getting just no reprieve, and we just have this little child that was in pain. So, we sought a lot of help at that stage from pediatricians, from Tresillian, we had four residential stays, which is really over the first 10 months of James’s life. And on the last Tresillian stay, I still remember that they took James off us after the second day and actually put him in the nurse’s office because that was the only sound-proofed room, so that we could have reprieved, and so the rest of the families, they could have reprieved. That’s how, that’s how much he screamed.

[00:04:24 – 00:06:33] It really is in the parents’ nature to think first of their children’s comfort before they think of themselves. Stephanie continues with the difficulties that James had as a baby. She reveals that back then, James was diagnosed with sleep apnea, and she and her husband had to be observant of his health 24/7.

Doctor Kimberley: I feel so sorry for James. He must have been in such pain and was so tired.

Steph: Yeah, and looking back, you know, it’s really sad because we looked at all his baby photos right until the age of about two, there is no photos of him smiling. You know, you get those really cute baby photos, and then you get these big, toothless, you know, screaming with James, you know, because he was just in constant pain. And then, as a result of that, he wasn’t sleeping, so he was then giving you irritable because of that. Anyway, long story short, he was basically diagnosed to a whole range of things. He was diagnosed with chronic sleep apnea. He was waking up 17 times an hour without some break. Yeah, which is why he just couldn’t sleep any longer than 15 minutes. Right, fifteen minutes was a good stretch for James.

Doctor Kimberley: Yeah.

Steph: So, he would we wake up because he would stop breathing, and then he would, he would obviously get so scared that he needed us to comfort him to then settle him back down. So, diagnosed with that, he was diagnosed with some reflux from an early age, and the treatment for that–it was medication—so he was put on a whole heap of medication, and quite hard doses, dosages from a young age. And then, he went on to develop all sorts of other issues during his first couple of years of life, so he was really, had a lot of food diversions when we started to transition him over to solids, which I was advised to do earlier than the six months, to try to settle his bellies, so he wouldn’t take anything other than white, sweet options like pear, apple or, you know, eat bread and terrible cereals… what’s that cereal? Kind of Farex. He would only take those sorts of things. He wouldn’t take any of the normal vegetables that kids usually wean onto. And he was, yeah, just consistently in pain even when we did transition him over to solids.

So, basically, long story short, we started to picture, we put together a picture that it was something going on with his gut.

Doctor Kimberley: Yes.

[00:06:24 – 00:09:21] Stephanie tells about that the time when James constantly talked about this ‘black cloud.’ It became bothersome that Stephanie thought of something to be done to put a stop to it. And then, she considered the Elimination Diet, where a selection of foods—those containing benzoates–was removed from his everyday diet.

Steph: So, basically, long story short, we started to picture, we put together a picture that it was something going on with his gut–

Doctor Kimberley: Yes.

Steph: –causing a lot of these other issues. And once we started to then play with the foods that he was eating and address, you know, respond I guess with different nutritional options based on the signals his body was presenting us with, that’s when the pieces really started to fall into place. So, we sought assistance from the RPA in terms of their Elimination Diet to start and work on removing certain foods from his diet. And we realized, as the part of that program that he was responding to benzoates, which is a common preservative that’s used in a whole lot of baby foods and kid’s food, you know, like, such as flavoured yogurt and such as the fruit usually have these benzoates, but also medications have the flavouring.

So, once we started to extract those things out of his diet, we noticed considerable improvements in terms of his symptoms of anxiety and depression that were kind of coming along. When I say anxiety and depression when he started to verbalize, he started to talk about a ‘black cloud’ that used to come and visit him, and not being able to see through the ‘black cloud,’ and just feeling that that ‘black cloud’ was suffocating him. So, when we saw a psychologist about it, earlier he’s got anxieties, he’s got depressions. We just added that to the diagnosis as well. But when we were…

Doctor Kimberley: At that point, Steph, sorry to interrupt, but how old was he at that stage when he went and saw a psychologist and had that problems?

Steph: I can’t remember. It was probably around, around three?

Doctor Kimberley: Okay.

Steph: Three or four? So, so, it was, it was when he was at, so I actually put him into daycare quite early just to give me some reprieve, and I remembered that it was one of the early childhood teachers there that mentioned to me that he kept talking about this ‘black cloud,’ and then I started to notice him talking about it more and more. So then, we saw a psychologist, yeah, around that three or four. And I remember sitting down and thinking this is just, this is just gets me meticulous.

Doctor Kimberley: Yeah, and we feel…

Steph: It was fine.

Doctor Kimberley: It doesn’t sound right.

Steph: No, we were seeing a psychologist. We were seeing the hospital regularly through his diet. We were seeing a physiotherapist because he failed to, to roll over, he failed to crawl. So, we had to assist him to learn all of those, to reach all of those physical development milestones that he was not reaching. So, once we extracted the benzoates, we realized that his behavior improved, but we still were seeing a lot of other symptoms that he was presenting that we just couldn’t, we couldn’t get settled through the diet that we were working with the elimination diet. And that’s when I started to look more and more into GAPS.

[00:09:22 – 00:10:31] Here, Stephanie educates us with a bit about GAPS—the Gut and Psychological/Physiological Syndrome. Because of James’s health being unstable at that time and the Elimination Diet not being enough for him, she was then motivated to pursue her post-graduate studies to become a certified GAPS practitioner

Steph: So, I don’t know if you’ve heard of GAPS, but GAPS is basically is Gut and Psychological Syndrome or Gut and Physiological Syndrome. So, it’s basically linking the state of people’s gut health with a whole myriad of physiological and psychological symptoms. And when I started to look into these, the GAPS logo is actually a signpost. I don’t know whether you’ve seen that, but it’s a signpost that’s got all these different diagnoses on it. The first one was dyspraxia; the second one was ADD; the third one was anxiety, and the fourth one was depression.

Now, my son had been diagnosed with all of them, and I was like, “Hmm, there might be something else going on here.” So, I went back and completed my post-grad studies in nutrition, and then went on to become a certified GAPS practitioner. And then, I, you know, James is basically my first client. So, I put him through the GAPS nutritional protocol, which is all about using whole foods, so getting away from processed foods using whole foods for healing the gap.

[00:10:32 – 00:13:03] At this point of the interview, Stephanie informs us about transitioning from processed food to real food, and she emphasizes its importance to everyone’s health and wellness.

Doctor Kimberley: I love it. And you talked about whole foods and you really talked us through at the local co-op shop with different whole food options and told us about different recipes that, you know, are just about whole foods. Can you just emphasize the point about the difference between the whole foods and, say, foods you’ll get at the shopping center? And why is it important to have whole foods in the diet, like, you think all whole foods, right, not a little bit of whole foods, but basically everything you eat needs to be a real food?

Steph: Yeah, absolutely. If you want to achieve optimum well-being, and if you want to support your children in reaching their full potential, whole foods just have to be a way of life. Yeah, I think it was processed foods, so which is anything that comes in a packet basically, these days have so many additives and preservatives in them, so many additional fillers, emulsifiers, stabilizers, refined sugars that are all behavioral shifters in our kids and in us. So, when you stop relying on those processed foods and you go back to using foods in their whole state, without any of these things that have been added, you start to see huge shifts in a way that, you, as adults, but also your kids present.

[00:11:44 – 00:12:34] Doctor O’Brien introduces the Best of Friends program initiated by the Quirky Kid.

Doctor Kimberley: Hey, I’m stopping in to see if you’ve heard about the Best of Friends program. If you haven’t, we offer it to school holidays and term-long programs; that’s one hour per week over ten weeks, or at two hours school holiday program. If you’d like a tester, the Best of Friends program is for children aged 7 to 11 years, and we have between three and six kids per group in the clinic setting. But it’s also adaptable for the classroom setting. It’s based around an interactive craft book and five stories about making and keeping friends. If you’d like to find out more, go to QuirkyKid.com.au and look into programs. That’s QuirkyKid.com.au programs.

Steph: Yeah, so I think a lot of parents out there just consider outdoor activity to be part of being a kid. It’s, you know, it’s not. If we’re fueling them with good nutritional food that’s not causing toxicity in their system, or causing their hormones to go skewey and for the neurotransmitters to go skewey, then we do have calm, focused, settled kids.

[00:13:04 – 00:15:55] Stephanie adds how she has implemented this transition to her children, and the positive effect this has on them.

Doctor Kimberley: I love it. So, tell us the transition, Steph, for your boys like, moving across into that whole foods diet, and then health was, I remember you mentioned Vegemite Scrolls or something. Was it James was looking at the other kids’ lunchboxes and say, “I would want to try one of those.” So, you managed to make one out of whole foods. Is that how the story went?

Steph: Yeah, yeah. So, our transition and crossing to whole foods has been, it was fairly easy to start with when the kids were really young because they weren’t exposed to any different. Basically, as parents, when our kids are young, we have full control over what they eat, you know. There’s no processed foods available in their pantry or in their lunchbox; they’re not exposed to it. So, initially that transition was really quite easy for me. I basically just stopped buying packaged foods, and I started to play with whole foods and develop my own recipes from there. But when James started to go to school or when he, you know, at daycare, for example, when he started to see that kids they eat differently to him, that’s when it became more of an issue for us in terms of it was no longer about me just giving him food. It was about educating him as well as to why he eats differently to other kids.

So, a lot of the time, it was a matter of, you know, he would come home, like the Vegemite Scrolls situation, he comes home and say, “Mama, so this Vegemite Scroll looked delicious, smelt delicious. I really wanted to try it.” And I would say, “Okay, cool. What we can do is to try and make our own version of that. What do you think might go into that? What do you think the taste might be?” And, you know, come up with salty, and then we came up with what we could use instead of flour and we talked about almond. So, it was about me talking him through all other times what we can substitute in terms of processed foods for whole food.

Doctor Kimberley: Yeah.

Steph: And then, he started to also be able to educate his peers as well at such a young age in the importance of whole foods and how he felt so different having the whole foods. So he, along the way, I’ve allowed him to experience things that aren’t necessarily whole foods. So, for example, you know, if he’s going to a party, I’m not one of those parents who will say, “You are not allowed to have anything on that table.” I would allow him to experiment if he wants to, and then I will talk him through what’s going on with his body afterwards. So, when he does start to become erratic, or emotional, or when he had some really bad night sleep as a result, I’ll then help him connect the dots between, okay, what you ate has now affected how you feel.

And by doing it that way, he’s now able to make much more empowered choices, rather than being me telling him what to do. He’s actually figuring it out now for himself as well, which is really an important part of transitioning your family over into whole foods. It has to be coming from a place where the kids are being educated as to why we’re doing it.

[00:15:56 – 00:19:09] From thinking of innovating food for entirely her child’s health, Stephanie’s idea has come a long way. Now, Steph organizes community-based workshops for parents and kids where she gets to educate them basically on how food affects our behavior. She has also come up with workshops were she shares her recipes to help people in transitioning from processed foods to whole, real foods.

Doctor Kimberley: I love it, too. I love it. It’s just you’re making perfect sense. Can you tell us now about how you’re bringing it in to schools and educating teachers and parents as well as the kids in the local community?

Steph: Yeah. So, I, about four months ago, I created a series of workshops that were community-based workshops that were focused on, to start with, it was just school snacks, so how you could start to provide a healthier lunchbox for kids by making whole food snacks. So, instead of, you know, giving them a packet of chips, we could look at curled chips, or instead of looking at, you know, the commercial cookies, I’ll then provide recipes that, you know, that was little chocolate cookies, but they were made from whole food ingredients. So, that was around as a community-type setting, and we just found that there was more and more parents wanting to learn about this. And we were getting their kids to come along and taste the difference between the whole foods and, you know, the more commercially bought foods. And they were saying so much nicer.

Doctor Kimberley: Yes.

Steph: So, from there, we then went on to create another workshop that’s called “Does food affect your children’s behavior?” where we actually delve into the science that’s being put out there at the moment about just how much what we’re feeding our kids is affecting how they’re presenting in life. And again, it was given at a community level, parents that were interested could come along and hear about it, kids as well could join, and we presented all of the information. And the more that we did that, the more parents were coming up to me afterwards saying, “You need to do this at the schools.” You know, “You need to get in and talk to more parents and more kids at the schools.”

So, now our vision over the next six to 12 months is to make those workshops to have food effects children’s behavior available to schools to present as a fundraiser, basically. So, what we’re looking at doing is offering my services to deliver this workshop to a school, which can then market it out to surrounding schools as a fundraising event. So, come along, purchase it to get for $20, whatever it maybe, all of those funds go into the PNC, so it makes it worthwhile for the school. But it also allows us to get this information app to a broad range of parents. So, touching the parents is one thing, but then getting kids excited about it is another.

So, what we’re looking to do is also have a program that’s within the classroom where we get kids inspired and excited about eating whole foods. So, we do a program that’s called Eating the Rainbow where we start to play with all of the different, colorful, whole foods, creating a rainbow, trying them because a lot of these kids have foodie versions to colorful, whole food–

Doctor Kimberley: Yeah.

Steph: –that giving them the exposure and the excitement about tasting all of these different things and saying how good they feel as a result of having those treats as well in the classrooms. So, we’re actually getting both levels: we’re getting the kid’s interested, but then also, getting the parents’ onboard because, ultimately, it’s us as parents that can influence mostly what’s going on with the kids in terms of their food choices and educating them on how that makes them feel.

[00:19:10 – 00:22:29] Stephanie introduces the online program on Life Wellness Co’s website, called Real Food Reboot, which can be a guide to anything you need to know and do while transitioning to whole foods.

Doctor Kimberley: Sounds amazing. Tell me more about how other parents can learn about, you know, as for parents that aren’t in the local community. How can they access courses that you offer? And is it possible for the kids to join in when it comes to online courses?

Steph: Absolutely. So, there’s a program, an online program that we’ve put together called Real Food Reboot, and basically this program is for that exact reason, so that more people around the nation and international can actually get access to how they can transition their family from processed packaged foods into a real food way of life. And it’s an information dense program in the first week where we go through and explain why, you know, the importance of doing this and how additives and preservatives can affect our kids, and how gut health affects our kids because when we have that awareness, as a parent, we can not do anything with that, you know, because we all want the best for our kids. So, the first part of the program is just for learning about why it’s so important to make this transition.

And then, the next four weeks of the program is basically walking you through step by-step how you do that. So, we talk about how you read food labels. We talk about where you can find whole foods. We talk about what you can do with whole foods because a lot of us are just like, “Oh, I don’t know how to cook,” or I don’t know how to, I don’t know what to do with seasoned purchase. So, we talk you through it—what you can do and what sort of recipes you can use.

We’ve also got in that program sample meal plans, so it’s examples of what I feed my family. So, from a nutritionist’s point-of-view, what I feed my family to make sure they’re getting all of the nutrient-dense foods that we want in a week. So, it’s breakfast, lunch, and dinner. It’s school snacks that I’ve packed them off to and you get access to all of those recipes. So, in that program, I think, there’s over 250 recipes now, whole food recipes that families can start to integrate into their diet. And in terms of getting their kids interested and excited, what I love to do is get the family to, well, I suggest in that program that the family actually writes down seven different breakfast options, seven different lunches, and seven different dinners from the portal. And then, the kids, pick one on each; the parents pick one each. So, that they can actually feel like they’re having a choice and they can get excited about trying out new recipes as well.

Doctor Kimberley: Yes.

Steph: So, that online program’s been really successful in transitioning a lot of families from processed packaged foods over to a real food diet, and this leaves so many testimonials from families just saying, “Oh my gosh, our dinner table is just completely different. We are all focused; we are all calm; we are all present; we are all excited about the food that we’re having. We’re all eating the same thing and there’s no meltdowns afterwards as the result from just providing that whole nutrient dense food that keeps us all stable.”

Doctor Kimberley: Yes, I’m one of the people who’ve done that online course. So, you just repeat that and in Real Food Reboot, isn’t it?

Steph: Real Food Reboot, yes. What I’d like to do actually is offer your listeners. We can offer them a special discount according to their families that arranged in taking that next step, and they can make it to one of the workshops. I’ll give you a little discount code that you can give out to your listeners, so that they can access that straight away.

[00:22:30] Besides the workshops, Stephanie also talks about the project she has initiated with Jodie Cooper–the Kindness Crew. This is a project that encourages children to do random acts of kindness, and they are gifted treats for doing so.

Doctor Kimberley: So, Stephanie, closing remarks, I also wondered if you could talk a bit about the kindness, was it the Kindness Project that you’re–

Steph: Yeah.

Doctor Kimberley: –you’re working on? That was another beautiful thing that’s worth mentioning–

Steph: Yes.

Doctor Kimberley: –many times in terms of people working with you and how they can find you?

Steph: Yeah, okay. So, just to talk a little bit on the Kindness Crew. So, Jodie Cooper, who’s a positive psychologist, and I, a couple of years ago, started an initiative on Christmas time where’s relevant having an advent calendar that was full of sweet treats that the kids got to open in each day. We had an advent calendar that was based on everyday the children being prompted to do a random act of kindness. And they were all things like, really got free things that the child could do like, you know, pick a fern and take it to your next door neighbor, or write a ‘thank you’ note to your teacher. So, the whole purpose of that was to remove that all about me and what I can get at Christmas time to what can I give, and having that attitude of gratitude because with that attitude of gratitude reduces a lot of stress, and stress is imagining your kind. They can also affect our food choices and our gut health as well. So, it was another little side project that I did that would, it just went wild as well. I can talk out of the nation. We’re on sunrise at one point is just ridiculous.

So many parents out there that were messaging us saying, “Oh my gosh, my child is a different child.” Every morning, they wake up thinking about what they can do for others. So, that was beautiful. And if anybody is interested in the Kindness Calendar for Christmas this year, let Jodie or myself know. You can contact me through the website and we can offer you the electronic version of the Kindness Calendar, which you can print off and use within used tools, or you can just use with that form.

[00:24:15 – 00:29:03] As the interview draws to a close, Stephanie tells the listeners how they can contact her and set up appointments, and that’s basically by visiting the Life Wellness Co website. She does coaching whether it’s face-to-face or even through Skype.

Doctor Kimberley: Thanks for being generous with all these resources. So, where can we find you, Steph work? Which is the best website and what platform are you most active on?

Steph: Okay. So, the best website to jump onto is www.lifewellnessco.com, so that’s L-I-F-E-W-E-L-L-N-E-S-S-C-O-dot-com. On that website, you can contact me directly, but it also has a trillion recipes. So, if you just want to start your journey into whole foods there, start trailing the recipe catalogue there and download recipes for free there.

Also, on that website, there’s a really good e-book called Real Food for Real Families. It is a 100-paged e-book that’s, I think it’s about $7 and it goes through a lot about the information that I usually talk about in my workshops, with additives on the sodas and sugars, and how to read food labels, and then a stack of recipes that you can start to implement into your diet. So, that’s sort of another good place to start; that’s my kind of my entry label. And then, once you’ve done that, I suggest having a look at the Real Food Reboot program, which you can access through that website as well and use the discount code that will pop on the show notes.

Then, if you really feel that you need to be having that one-on-one support, then you can contact me and we can work on-on-one together, so we’re one on the family, I should say. Because it’s never about me working with one particular family member; it’s about working with the whole family together. So, I do that; I do a lot of international clients and we do it through Skype. Or if you’re local and you’re near our area, then I love doing it face-to-face in my clinic as well. So, if you’re interested in that one-on-one coaching, again, on the website, there’s a little section that talks about working with me, and you can contact me through there. You can have your free 30-minute sessions, work at it. We’re going to work well together, and then we can go on to organizing individual coaching on top of that.

Also, on that website, I suggest just keeping an eye out for any upcoming workshops because a lot of the workshops that we’re doing now in our local area were also transitioning over to be available online. So, as a webinar, so that people that aren’t in your work can also still be accessing that information. So, that website pretty much covers of all bases.
Doctor Kimberley: And thanks again for taking time out of your family holidays, Steph, for I can see in the background, there’s that beautiful snow scene.

Steph: Yeah.

Doctor Kimberley: What are you going to do this afternoon? Yeah, what’s the plan for dinner?

Steph: I am going to head over, I’ve got another hour or so work to do. Then I’m going to head over to pick my boys up, and I’ve got them some beautiful almond and vanilla spice chocolate cookies for afternoon tea. So, we’ll take that over, and this afternoon, we’re basically just going go on a little hike up to Mount Perisher. And then, the chef here, the lunch will be making a beautiful crusted barramundi, which is basically being made, for our version, Macadamias and fresh herbs on top of the barramundi. And I can’t wait.

Doctor Kimberley: Me, too. My mouth is watering. It sounds so delicious

Steph: Thank you for it. I want to thank you, Kimberly. I’m really, I appreciate you asking me to be on and allow me the time to talk through just how important it is for us to transition our kids from these processed packaged way of life into real foods. So, I really thank you from the bottom of my heart for allowing me to be on and talk about these.

Doctor Kimberley: My pleasure. I’m a big fan, and it really just rings through when I’ve done observations in the school setting, and then I watched the kids unpack their lunchboxes and the wrappers are flying around the playground. I just think, “How can we change this?” and I feel like you’re taking steps to make a real difference and help kids find healthy choices. So, yeah, thanks again for your time, Steph. And I hope our listeners would be in-touch and will be on access those amazing recipes.

Steph: Yeah, perfect. Thanks, Kim.

Doctor Kimberley: Okay, take care.

Now if you liked this week’s episode of Impressive, don’t forget to subscribe so that you can find out about our next episode featuring Janna Lundquist, who is a US-based consultant to CEOs and leaders in corporations talking about how to make leadership decisions. And she’s also sharing with her one of her parenting challenges, which is helping her three-year-old and five-year-old setup the table when her husband comes home with the kids after a long day at school, and childcare. You may able to relate, and I would love to have you listen up to that episode. So, join us next week for Impressive. Until then, have a great week.

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